[BVC-CHAT] A newbie's $0.02 re. today's Pole Ride
gary at philosophy.tamu.edu
Sun Aug 10 09:48:47 CDT 2008
Kevin Baker wrote:
> Well, keeping people from getting dropped is a shared responsibility.
> The riders in front should take care not to ride too hard, but if you
> are being dropped, it's your responsibility to let the people in front
> of you know that you're in difficulty. Some people might not want to
> slow down alot due to time constraints, but I, and lots of other
> folks, are happy to slow down to keep someone from having to ride home
FWIW, after being dropped initially, I worked hard to catch the lead
group and shouted to Chris (him being half deaf and all), "What's with
this pace? People are being dropped." To which he replied with a chuckle
and said (roughly): "It's steady. You can do it. Circular peddle." (That
last sentence might not be quite accurate, but I took him to be
counseling me to use all of my leg muscles instead of relying so heavily
on my hams.)
And before that Brother Menzel wrote:
> After Varner wrote:
>> 1. I think that two "portages" necessitated by the construction on
>> Rte 166 are preferable to the longish stretch of pot-holes and dirt
>> that we rode during today's detour route.
> I strongly disagree. One portage might be tolerable, but two are way
> too disruptive, especially for people at the front who are working
> harder than the folks sitting in.
Which kinda made me feel small.
> Plus, it takes time to get the group back together after the
> portage. And it's especially irksome to have to portage *again*
> after the first one; there's not enough distance between them to get
> back into any sort of groove. We might as well just do a pleasant
> spin between the two, which is just not what this ride is all about.
> Finally, there will be, if there isn't already, yet another culvert
> being replaced, which would mean a third portage. This ride, for the
> faster group, is supposed to be *hard steady* until a couple miles
> outside Caldwell, at which point it turns more race-pace. The
> portages basically destroy the nature of the ride on the Caldwell leg.
But if folks just treated the portages as momentary re-groups, rather
than a momentary galloping biathlon, wouldn't that be OK as a short-term
(how long can the construction last) solution?
> That said, as long as we're riding that dirt stretch, I *do* think we
> ought to make more of an effort to keep the group together. A lot of
> people aren't comfortable riding dirt at speed, and there are a
> couple of pretty sketchy sections. I myself took that first right
> hand turn too far on the inside where the gravel was quite deep and I
> was really ice skating. I'm not saying dirt lovers like Baker can't
> go off the front, but those who want to ride that section with a
> little less derring-do should perhaps make an effort to keep those
> who aren't off the front together, and we can all regroup at 3058 for
> a nice hammerfest back to 166.
Except us small people.
>> Remember also that your fitness level has a lot to do with how
>> comfortable you are, especially at that point in the ride.
>> Honestly, people really were not hammering today on the return leg
>> at all; the folks in the front group there were just riding steady,
>> but are at a pretty high level of fitness right now. The usual
>> practice for folks who don't like the speed on this section (and
>> this often includes longtime participants) is just to drop off and
>> ride your preferred pace home.
Which made me feel tiny.
But I knew that folks weren't hammering on that leg.
I just thought that the assumption on that leg was that we'd ride about
the pace that the group rides out to Twisters. But now I see that
http://www.brazoscyclists.org/train.htm describes the outbound leg as
"moderate" and the return leg as "steady."
Having now grokked Chris' vocabulary:
talking pace < moderate < steady < hammering
I now see that I misunderstood.
(BTW, insert numerous smileys above!)
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