[CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments

Fri Oct 14 15:48:05 CDT 2005

Great! We will come back and ask for funds later if necessary.

Bud, can we get the ACLU chapter on board with this?  Katie, how about you
UUs? Anyone from Friends?

If we are going to do an ad, is it going to be in the form of an open letter
to the city council?  If so, who would like to work on writing it? We should
have a few.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Krista May [mailto:kristamay at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:37 PM
> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz; 'Larry Oliver';
> csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu
> Subject: RE: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>
>
> Steering can act quickly...the wheels are already in motion!
> I'm hoping to hear from everyone and have a decision by
> Monday. If we don't commit any BP funds to this up front and
> go with donations, it will be easier to act quickly because
> everyone on Steering won't have to weigh in with a vote on
> funds. So...helping to get the word out about contributions
> and using our PO box for donations is actually less
> complicated than an allocation of funds (and likely to happen
> more quickly).
>
> Krista
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hugh <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
> Sent: Oct 14, 2005 3:30 PM
> To: 'Krista May' <kristamay at earthlink.net>, 'Larry Oliver'
> <larryo49 at hotmail.com>, csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu
> Subject: RE: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>
> The ad, at that time, was a little over $1,200.00.  I think
> that we should
> be able to raise this money from contributions and not tap
> into organization
> money, though it is good to have backup if necessary.  What
> we would want
> from BP would mainly be endorsement and the post office box to collect
> contributions.  Krista, is this something that the steering
> committee can do
> via email so that we can react quickly?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Krista May [mailto:kristamay at earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:23 PM
> > To: Larry Oliver; hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz;
> csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> > Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu; kristamay at earthlink.net
> > Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >
> >
> > This sounds like something the Brazos Progressives as an
> > organization might (likely) be interested in supporting (as
> > an individual, I am certainly supportive of this). I'd need
> > to talk to the Steering Committee first, though, before we
> > committ to adding our name to a petition or letter.  I'd need
> > to put it to Steering for a vote on how much money the
> > organization might also be able to give to this effort if we
> > go with an ad. We can, of course, also ask our membership to
> > contribute money ear-marked for the ad...I feel like some
> > members would also contribute.
> >
> > Hugh, do you know how much an ad would cost? Let me know the
> > details. In the meantime, I will run this by the Steering
> > Committee to see what they say.
> >
> > I'll be in touch...
> >
> > Krista
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Oliver <larryo49 at hotmail.com>
> > Sent: Oct 14, 2005 3:10 PM
> > To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz, csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> > Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu, kristamay at earthlink.net
> > Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >
> > let's do it.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Hugh" <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
> > >Reply-To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz
> > >To: <csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU>
> > >CC: "Bud Wurtz (E-mail)" <william.wurtz at tamu.edu>,
> > "Krista May
> > >(E-mail)" <kristamay at earthlink.net>
> > >Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > >Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:06:23 -0500
> > >
> > >Before the war started, we were able to raise enough money
> > for a full-page
> > >ad in the Eagle with a letter to Bush and the signatures of
> > many of us.  We
> > >have a much broader coalition at this time and I would guess
> > that something
> > >of this magnitude could easily be done.  It would be nice if
> > we could get
> > >Brazos Progressives, CSPS, ACLU, UU and other progressive
> > churches and any
> > >other interested groups involved.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> > > > [mailto:csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu]On Behalf Of Larry Oliver
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:33 PM
> > > > To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz; csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> > > > Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Any sentiments for circulating a petition or protest letter
> > > > among those of
> > > > us who aren't aware that we have been citizens of a
> > > > "Christian" city?  Or
> > > > turning out in force at the next CS Council meeting?
> > > >
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Hugh" <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
> > > > >Reply-To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz
> > > > >To: <csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > > > >Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:36:27 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >http://www.theeagle.com/stories/100905/local_20051009003.php
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: feagin at tamu.edu [mailto:feagin at tamu.edu]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:31 AM
> > > > > > To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz; 'Mike Alvard';
> > 'Larry Oliver';
> > > > > > csps at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do we know for sure exactly what the mayor said? I hate to
> > > > > > rely just on the
> > > > > > Battalion:) JF
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Hugh" <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
> > > > > > To: "'Mike Alvard'" <alvard at tamu.edu>; "'Larry Oliver'"
> > > > > > <larryo49 at hotmail.com>; <csps at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:29 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The mayor was also quoted as saying something to
> the effect
> > > > > > that Wiccas
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > not a real religion.  I have spoken to Bud Wurtz, the
> > > > > > president of our
> > > > > > > local
> > > > > > > ACLU chapter, and they are looking into legal action.
> > > > > > Though with our
> > > > > > > courts the way they are, it seems unwise to challenge
> > > > > > anything.  The way
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > beat this is by playing their game.  We need to make sure
> > > > > > that we provide
> > > > > > > diversity - Pagans, Buddhists, Animists,
> Atheists.  I would
> > > > > > love to see
> > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > try to impose some sort of Christian affirmative
> > action plan.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The usually meek mayor is actually the one person
> who stood
> > > > > > up to this
> > > > > > > effort when it was voted on.  Sadly, Suzan Lancaster, who
> > > > > > has been the
> > > > > > > progressive hero of this depressing council, is the
> > > > > > initiator of this
> > > > > > > effort.  I encourage everyone to write a letter to your
> > > > > > council people
> > > > > > > (even
> > > > > > > if they are not your council people) who are:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mayor Ron Silvia - rsilvia at cstx.gov
> > > > > > > Place 1 Ben White - bwhite at cstx.gov
> > > > > > > Place 2 - John Happ - jhapp at cstx.gov
> > > > > > > Place 3 - Ron Gay - rgay at cstx.gov
> > > > > > > Place 4 - Suzan Lancaster - slancaster at cstx.gov
> > > > > > > Place 5 - Chris Scotti - cscotti at cstx.gov
> > > > > > > Place 6 - Nancy Berry - nberry at cstx.gov
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Additionally, I would encourage you to copy Robert Borden
> > > > > > of the Eagle -
> > > > > > > rborden at theeagle.com.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As you write, keep in mind that the District Attorney is
> > > > > > investigating
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > City Council for violations of open meetings regulations,
> > > > > > so the prospect
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > legal action will resonate well with them.  We don't have
> > > > > > to tolerate
> > > > > > > this. - Hugh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> From: csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> > > > > > >> [mailto:csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu]On Behalf
> > Of Mike Alvard
> > > > > > >> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 9:20 AM
> > > > > > >> To: 'Larry Oliver'; csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> This seems to be a move to demote non-Christians to
> > > > second class
> > > > > > >> citizenship.  How can I feel I will be treated
> fairly by a
> > > > > > >> city government
> > > > > > >> that believes, apparently, that I am hell-bound.
> > I have come
> > > > > > >> to terms with
> > > > > > >> my neighbors' believing that I am to suffer eternal
> > > > > > >> damnation, but my city
> > > > > > >> council and mayor?  How can I trust the courts
> to treat me
> > > > > > >> fairly? What do
> > > > > > >> they expect me to tell my children when they ask
> > about living
> > > > > > >> in a Christian
> > > > > > >> town...?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I called Silva, but had to rant into his answering
> > machine...
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Michael Alvard, Ph.D.
> > > > > > >> Associate Professor of Anthropology
> > > > > > >> Department of Anthropology
> > > > > > >> 4352 TAMU
> > > > > > >> Texas A&M University
> > > > > > >> College Station, Texas 77843-4352
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> web:http://anthropology.tamu.edu/faculty/alvard/profile.htm
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> e-mail: Alvard at tamu.edu
> > > > > > >> Office: (979) 862-3492
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
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> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> From: csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> > > > > > >> [mailto:csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu]
> > > > > > >> On Behalf Of Larry Oliver
> > > > > > >> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 8:47 AM
> > > > > > >> To: csps at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> > > > > > >> Subject: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> CSPS,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Re our City Council's decision to open its meetings
> > > > with a prayer
> > > > > > >> (supposedly non-sectarian):
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I was astounded to read in today's Battalion
> that our mayor
> > > > > > >> has stated (if
> > > > > > >> quoted accurately) that College Station is a "Christian
> > > > > > >> community."  and he
> > > > > > >> is not backing away from that declaration. He has invited
> > > > > > >> community members
> > > > > > >> to contact him to voice their opinions.  I think we all
> > > > > > >> should do exactly
> > > > > > >> that. His personal phone number is  690-6519.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Larry
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > > > > >> CSPS mailing list
> > > > > > >> CSPS at csps.tamu.edu
> > > > > > >> http://philebus.tamu.edu/mailman/listinfo/csps
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> > > > > > >>
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