[CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
Hugh
hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz
Fri Oct 14 16:22:32 CDT 2005
Wow, especially when you consider the source, I don't ever remember feeling
more flattered. As one of the usual suspects, I think that we would be
better off to could get some different voices involved in this. I will
gladly Kibitz.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kathi Appelt [mailto:kappelt at tca.net]
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 4:04 PM
> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz
> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu; 'Krista May'; csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>
>
> Hugh is one of the best writers I know. I vote for him.
> And I'll be
> glad to pitch in on the cost.
> Kathi Appelt
>
> On Oct 14, 2005, at 3:48 PM, Hugh wrote:
>
> > Great! We will come back and ask for funds later if necessary.
> >
> > Bud, can we get the ACLU chapter on board with this?
> Katie, how about
> > you
> > UUs? Anyone from Friends?
> >
> > If we are going to do an ad, is it going to be in the form
> of an open
> > letter
> > to the city council? If so, who would like to work on
> writing it? We
> > should
> > have a few.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Krista May [mailto:kristamay at earthlink.net]
> >> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:37 PM
> >> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz; 'Larry Oliver';
> >> csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> >> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu
> >> Subject: RE: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >>
> >>
> >> Steering can act quickly...the wheels are already in motion!
> >> I'm hoping to hear from everyone and have a decision by
> >> Monday. If we don't commit any BP funds to this up front and
> >> go with donations, it will be easier to act quickly because
> >> everyone on Steering won't have to weigh in with a vote on
> >> funds. So...helping to get the word out about contributions
> >> and using our PO box for donations is actually less
> >> complicated than an allocation of funds (and likely to happen
> >> more quickly).
> >>
> >> Krista
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Hugh <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
> >> Sent: Oct 14, 2005 3:30 PM
> >> To: 'Krista May' <kristamay at earthlink.net>, 'Larry Oliver'
> >> <larryo49 at hotmail.com>, csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> >> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu
> >> Subject: RE: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >>
> >> The ad, at that time, was a little over $1,200.00. I think
> >> that we should
> >> be able to raise this money from contributions and not tap
> >> into organization
> >> money, though it is good to have backup if necessary. What
> >> we would want
> >> from BP would mainly be endorsement and the post office
> box to collect
> >> contributions. Krista, is this something that the steering
> >> committee can do
> >> via email so that we can react quickly?
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Krista May [mailto:kristamay at earthlink.net]
> >>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:23 PM
> >>> To: Larry Oliver; hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz;
> >> csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> >>> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu; kristamay at earthlink.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This sounds like something the Brazos Progressives as an
> >>> organization might (likely) be interested in supporting (as
> >>> an individual, I am certainly supportive of this). I'd need
> >>> to talk to the Steering Committee first, though, before we
> >>> committ to adding our name to a petition or letter. I'd need
> >>> to put it to Steering for a vote on how much money the
> >>> organization might also be able to give to this effort if we
> >>> go with an ad. We can, of course, also ask our membership to
> >>> contribute money ear-marked for the ad...I feel like some
> >>> members would also contribute.
> >>>
> >>> Hugh, do you know how much an ad would cost? Let me know the
> >>> details. In the meantime, I will run this by the Steering
> >>> Committee to see what they say.
> >>>
> >>> I'll be in touch...
> >>>
> >>> Krista
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Larry Oliver <larryo49 at hotmail.com>
> >>> Sent: Oct 14, 2005 3:10 PM
> >>> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz, csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> >>> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu, kristamay at earthlink.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >>>
> >>> let's do it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: "Hugh" <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
> >>>> Reply-To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz
> >>>> To: <csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU>
> >>>> CC: "Bud Wurtz (E-mail)" <william.wurtz at tamu.edu>,
> >>> "Krista May
> >>>> (E-mail)" <kristamay at earthlink.net>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >>>> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:06:23 -0500
> >>>>
> >>>> Before the war started, we were able to raise enough money
> >>> for a full-page
> >>>> ad in the Eagle with a letter to Bush and the signatures of
> >>> many of us. We
> >>>> have a much broader coalition at this time and I would guess
> >>> that something
> >>>> of this magnitude could easily be done. It would be nice if
> >>> we could get
> >>>> Brazos Progressives, CSPS, ACLU, UU and other progressive
> >>> churches and any
> >>>> other interested groups involved.
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> >>>>> [mailto:csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu]On Behalf Of Larry Oliver
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:33 PM
> >>>>> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz; csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any sentiments for circulating a petition or protest letter
> >>>>> among those of
> >>>>> us who aren't aware that we have been citizens of a
> >>>>> "Christian" city? Or
> >>>>> turning out in force at the next CS Council meeting?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Larry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> From: "Hugh" <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
> >>>>>> Reply-To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz
> >>>>>> To: <csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:36:27 -0500
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.theeagle.com/stories/100905/local_20051009003.php
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: feagin at tamu.edu [mailto:feagin at tamu.edu]
> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:31 AM
> >>>>>>> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz; 'Mike Alvard';
> >>> 'Larry Oliver';
> >>>>>>> csps at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Do we know for sure exactly what the mayor said? I hate to
> >>>>>>> rely just on the
> >>>>>>> Battalion:) JF
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Hugh" <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
> >>>>>>> To: "'Mike Alvard'" <alvard at tamu.edu>; "'Larry Oliver'"
> >>>>>>> <larryo49 at hotmail.com>; <csps at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:29 AM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The mayor was also quoted as saying something to
> >> the effect
> >>>>>>> that Wiccas
> >>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>> not a real religion. I have spoken to Bud Wurtz, the
> >>>>>>> president of our
> >>>>>>>> local
> >>>>>>>> ACLU chapter, and they are looking into legal action.
> >>>>>>> Though with our
> >>>>>>>> courts the way they are, it seems unwise to challenge
> >>>>>>> anything. The way
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> beat this is by playing their game. We need to make sure
> >>>>>>> that we provide
> >>>>>>>> diversity - Pagans, Buddhists, Animists,
> >> Atheists. I would
> >>>>>>> love to see
> >>>>>>>> them
> >>>>>>>> try to impose some sort of Christian affirmative
> >>> action plan.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The usually meek mayor is actually the one person
> >> who stood
> >>>>>>> up to this
> >>>>>>>> effort when it was voted on. Sadly, Suzan Lancaster, who
> >>>>>>> has been the
> >>>>>>>> progressive hero of this depressing council, is the
> >>>>>>> initiator of this
> >>>>>>>> effort. I encourage everyone to write a letter to your
> >>>>>>> council people
> >>>>>>>> (even
> >>>>>>>> if they are not your council people) who are:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mayor Ron Silvia - rsilvia at cstx.gov
> >>>>>>>> Place 1 Ben White - bwhite at cstx.gov
> >>>>>>>> Place 2 - John Happ - jhapp at cstx.gov
> >>>>>>>> Place 3 - Ron Gay - rgay at cstx.gov
> >>>>>>>> Place 4 - Suzan Lancaster - slancaster at cstx.gov
> >>>>>>>> Place 5 - Chris Scotti - cscotti at cstx.gov
> >>>>>>>> Place 6 - Nancy Berry - nberry at cstx.gov
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Additionally, I would encourage you to copy Robert Borden
> >>>>>>> of the Eagle -
> >>>>>>>> rborden at theeagle.com.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As you write, keep in mind that the District Attorney is
> >>>>>>> investigating
> >>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>> City Council for violations of open meetings regulations,
> >>>>>>> so the prospect
> >>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>> legal action will resonate well with them. We don't have
> >>>>>>> to tolerate
> >>>>>>>> this. - Hugh
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> >>>>>>>>> [mailto:csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu]On Behalf
> >>> Of Mike Alvard
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 9:20 AM
> >>>>>>>>> To: 'Larry Oliver'; csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This seems to be a move to demote non-Christians to
> >>>>> second class
> >>>>>>>>> citizenship. How can I feel I will be treated
> >> fairly by a
> >>>>>>>>> city government
> >>>>>>>>> that believes, apparently, that I am hell-bound.
> >>> I have come
> >>>>>>>>> to terms with
> >>>>>>>>> my neighbors' believing that I am to suffer eternal
> >>>>>>>>> damnation, but my city
> >>>>>>>>> council and mayor? How can I trust the courts
> >> to treat me
> >>>>>>>>> fairly? What do
> >>>>>>>>> they expect me to tell my children when they ask
> >>> about living
> >>>>>>>>> in a Christian
> >>>>>>>>> town...?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I called Silva, but had to rant into his answering
> >>> machine...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Michael Alvard, Ph.D.
> >>>>>>>>> Associate Professor of Anthropology
> >>>>>>>>> Department of Anthropology
> >>>>>>>>> 4352 TAMU
> >>>>>>>>> Texas A&M University
> >>>>>>>>> College Station, Texas 77843-4352
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> web:http://anthropology.tamu.edu/faculty/alvard/profile.htm
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> e-mail: Alvard at tamu.edu
> >>>>>>>>> Office: (979) 862-3492
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> >>>>>>>>> [mailto:csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu]
> >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Larry Oliver
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 8:47 AM
> >>>>>>>>> To: csps at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> CSPS,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Re our City Council's decision to open its meetings
> >>>>> with a prayer
> >>>>>>>>> (supposedly non-sectarian):
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I was astounded to read in today's Battalion
> >> that our mayor
> >>>>>>>>> has stated (if
> >>>>>>>>> quoted accurately) that College Station is a "Christian
> >>>>>>>>> community." and he
> >>>>>>>>> is not backing away from that declaration. He has invited
> >>>>>>>>> community members
> >>>>>>>>> to contact him to voice their opinions. I think we all
> >>>>>>>>> should do exactly
> >>>>>>>>> that. His personal phone number is 690-6519.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Larry
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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