[CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
Hugh
hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz
Fri Oct 14 16:48:13 CDT 2005
Another thing about the writing is that we will need to get it done as soon
as possible, so that we can start gathering signatures.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hugh [mailto:hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz]
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 4:23 PM
> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz
> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu; 'Krista May'; csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> Subject: RE: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>
>
> Wow, especially when you consider the source, I don't ever
> remember feeling
> more flattered. As one of the usual suspects, I think that
> we would be
> better off to could get some different voices involved in this. I will
> gladly Kibitz.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kathi Appelt [mailto:kappelt at tca.net]
> > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 4:04 PM
> > To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz
> > Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu; 'Krista May'; csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> >
> >
> > Hugh is one of the best writers I know. I vote for him.
> > And I'll be
> > glad to pitch in on the cost.
> > Kathi Appelt
> >
> > On Oct 14, 2005, at 3:48 PM, Hugh wrote:
> >
> > > Great! We will come back and ask for funds later if necessary.
> > >
> > > Bud, can we get the ACLU chapter on board with this?
> > Katie, how about
> > > you
> > > UUs? Anyone from Friends?
> > >
> > > If we are going to do an ad, is it going to be in the form
> > of an open
> > > letter
> > > to the city council? If so, who would like to work on
> > writing it? We
> > > should
> > > have a few.
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Krista May [mailto:kristamay at earthlink.net]
> > >> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:37 PM
> > >> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz; 'Larry Oliver';
> > >> csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> > >> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu
> > >> Subject: RE: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Steering can act quickly...the wheels are already in motion!
> > >> I'm hoping to hear from everyone and have a decision by
> > >> Monday. If we don't commit any BP funds to this up front and
> > >> go with donations, it will be easier to act quickly because
> > >> everyone on Steering won't have to weigh in with a vote on
> > >> funds. So...helping to get the word out about contributions
> > >> and using our PO box for donations is actually less
> > >> complicated than an allocation of funds (and likely to happen
> > >> more quickly).
> > >>
> > >> Krista
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Hugh <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
> > >> Sent: Oct 14, 2005 3:30 PM
> > >> To: 'Krista May' <kristamay at earthlink.net>, 'Larry Oliver'
> > >> <larryo49 at hotmail.com>, csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> > >> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu
> > >> Subject: RE: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > >>
> > >> The ad, at that time, was a little over $1,200.00. I think
> > >> that we should
> > >> be able to raise this money from contributions and not tap
> > >> into organization
> > >> money, though it is good to have backup if necessary. What
> > >> we would want
> > >> from BP would mainly be endorsement and the post office
> > box to collect
> > >> contributions. Krista, is this something that the steering
> > >> committee can do
> > >> via email so that we can react quickly?
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Krista May [mailto:kristamay at earthlink.net]
> > >>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:23 PM
> > >>> To: Larry Oliver; hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz;
> > >> csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> > >>> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu; kristamay at earthlink.net
> > >>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> This sounds like something the Brazos Progressives as an
> > >>> organization might (likely) be interested in supporting (as
> > >>> an individual, I am certainly supportive of this). I'd need
> > >>> to talk to the Steering Committee first, though, before we
> > >>> committ to adding our name to a petition or letter. I'd need
> > >>> to put it to Steering for a vote on how much money the
> > >>> organization might also be able to give to this effort if we
> > >>> go with an ad. We can, of course, also ask our membership to
> > >>> contribute money ear-marked for the ad...I feel like some
> > >>> members would also contribute.
> > >>>
> > >>> Hugh, do you know how much an ad would cost? Let me know the
> > >>> details. In the meantime, I will run this by the Steering
> > >>> Committee to see what they say.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'll be in touch...
> > >>>
> > >>> Krista
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Larry Oliver <larryo49 at hotmail.com>
> > >>> Sent: Oct 14, 2005 3:10 PM
> > >>> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz, csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> > >>> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu, kristamay at earthlink.net
> > >>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > >>>
> > >>> let's do it.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> From: "Hugh" <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
> > >>>> Reply-To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz
> > >>>> To: <csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU>
> > >>>> CC: "Bud Wurtz (E-mail)" <william.wurtz at tamu.edu>,
> > >>> "Krista May
> > >>>> (E-mail)" <kristamay at earthlink.net>
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > >>>> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:06:23 -0500
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Before the war started, we were able to raise enough money
> > >>> for a full-page
> > >>>> ad in the Eagle with a letter to Bush and the signatures of
> > >>> many of us. We
> > >>>> have a much broader coalition at this time and I would guess
> > >>> that something
> > >>>> of this magnitude could easily be done. It would be nice if
> > >>> we could get
> > >>>> Brazos Progressives, CSPS, ACLU, UU and other progressive
> > >>> churches and any
> > >>>> other interested groups involved.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>> From: csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> > >>>>> [mailto:csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu]On Behalf Of
> Larry Oliver
> > >>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:33 PM
> > >>>>> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz; csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Any sentiments for circulating a petition or protest letter
> > >>>>> among those of
> > >>>>> us who aren't aware that we have been citizens of a
> > >>>>> "Christian" city? Or
> > >>>>> turning out in force at the next CS Council meeting?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Larry
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> From: "Hugh" <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
> > >>>>>> Reply-To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz
> > >>>>>> To: <csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU>
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > >>>>>> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:36:27 -0500
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> http://www.theeagle.com/stories/100905/local_20051009003.php
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>> From: feagin at tamu.edu [mailto:feagin at tamu.edu]
> > >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:31 AM
> > >>>>>>> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz; 'Mike Alvard';
> > >>> 'Larry Oliver';
> > >>>>>>> csps at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Do we know for sure exactly what the mayor said? I hate to
> > >>>>>>> rely just on the
> > >>>>>>> Battalion:) JF
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>> From: "Hugh" <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
> > >>>>>>> To: "'Mike Alvard'" <alvard at tamu.edu>; "'Larry Oliver'"
> > >>>>>>> <larryo49 at hotmail.com>; <csps at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu>
> > >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:29 AM
> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The mayor was also quoted as saying something to
> > >> the effect
> > >>>>>>> that Wiccas
> > >>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>> not a real religion. I have spoken to Bud Wurtz, the
> > >>>>>>> president of our
> > >>>>>>>> local
> > >>>>>>>> ACLU chapter, and they are looking into legal action.
> > >>>>>>> Though with our
> > >>>>>>>> courts the way they are, it seems unwise to challenge
> > >>>>>>> anything. The way
> > >>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>> beat this is by playing their game. We need to make sure
> > >>>>>>> that we provide
> > >>>>>>>> diversity - Pagans, Buddhists, Animists,
> > >> Atheists. I would
> > >>>>>>> love to see
> > >>>>>>>> them
> > >>>>>>>> try to impose some sort of Christian affirmative
> > >>> action plan.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The usually meek mayor is actually the one person
> > >> who stood
> > >>>>>>> up to this
> > >>>>>>>> effort when it was voted on. Sadly, Suzan Lancaster, who
> > >>>>>>> has been the
> > >>>>>>>> progressive hero of this depressing council, is the
> > >>>>>>> initiator of this
> > >>>>>>>> effort. I encourage everyone to write a letter to your
> > >>>>>>> council people
> > >>>>>>>> (even
> > >>>>>>>> if they are not your council people) who are:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Mayor Ron Silvia - rsilvia at cstx.gov
> > >>>>>>>> Place 1 Ben White - bwhite at cstx.gov
> > >>>>>>>> Place 2 - John Happ - jhapp at cstx.gov
> > >>>>>>>> Place 3 - Ron Gay - rgay at cstx.gov
> > >>>>>>>> Place 4 - Suzan Lancaster - slancaster at cstx.gov
> > >>>>>>>> Place 5 - Chris Scotti - cscotti at cstx.gov
> > >>>>>>>> Place 6 - Nancy Berry - nberry at cstx.gov
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Additionally, I would encourage you to copy Robert Borden
> > >>>>>>> of the Eagle -
> > >>>>>>>> rborden at theeagle.com.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> As you write, keep in mind that the District Attorney is
> > >>>>>>> investigating
> > >>>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>>> City Council for violations of open meetings regulations,
> > >>>>>>> so the prospect
> > >>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>> legal action will resonate well with them. We don't have
> > >>>>>>> to tolerate
> > >>>>>>>> this. - Hugh
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>>> From: csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> > >>>>>>>>> [mailto:csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu]On Behalf
> > >>> Of Mike Alvard
> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 9:20 AM
> > >>>>>>>>> To: 'Larry Oliver'; csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> This seems to be a move to demote non-Christians to
> > >>>>> second class
> > >>>>>>>>> citizenship. How can I feel I will be treated
> > >> fairly by a
> > >>>>>>>>> city government
> > >>>>>>>>> that believes, apparently, that I am hell-bound.
> > >>> I have come
> > >>>>>>>>> to terms with
> > >>>>>>>>> my neighbors' believing that I am to suffer eternal
> > >>>>>>>>> damnation, but my city
> > >>>>>>>>> council and mayor? How can I trust the courts
> > >> to treat me
> > >>>>>>>>> fairly? What do
> > >>>>>>>>> they expect me to tell my children when they ask
> > >>> about living
> > >>>>>>>>> in a Christian
> > >>>>>>>>> town...?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I called Silva, but had to rant into his answering
> > >>> machine...
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Michael Alvard, Ph.D.
> > >>>>>>>>> Associate Professor of Anthropology
> > >>>>>>>>> Department of Anthropology
> > >>>>>>>>> 4352 TAMU
> > >>>>>>>>> Texas A&M University
> > >>>>>>>>> College Station, Texas 77843-4352
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> web:http://anthropology.tamu.edu/faculty/alvard/profile.htm
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> e-mail: Alvard at tamu.edu
> > >>>>>>>>> Office: (979) 862-3492
> > >>>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>>> From: csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> > >>>>>>>>> [mailto:csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu]
> > >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Larry Oliver
> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 8:47 AM
> > >>>>>>>>> To: csps at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> CSPS,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Re our City Council's decision to open its meetings
> > >>>>> with a prayer
> > >>>>>>>>> (supposedly non-sectarian):
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I was astounded to read in today's Battalion
> > >> that our mayor
> > >>>>>>>>> has stated (if
> > >>>>>>>>> quoted accurately) that College Station is a "Christian
> > >>>>>>>>> community." and he
> > >>>>>>>>> is not backing away from that declaration. He has invited
> > >>>>>>>>> community members
> > >>>>>>>>> to contact him to voice their opinions. I think we all
> > >>>>>>>>> should do exactly
> > >>>>>>>>> that. His personal phone number is 690-6519.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Larry
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
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