[CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
Kathi Appelt
kappelt at tca.net
Fri Oct 14 16:03:51 CDT 2005
Hugh is one of the best writers I know. I vote for him. And I'll be
glad to pitch in on the cost.
Kathi Appelt
On Oct 14, 2005, at 3:48 PM, Hugh wrote:
> Great! We will come back and ask for funds later if necessary.
>
> Bud, can we get the ACLU chapter on board with this? Katie, how about
> you
> UUs? Anyone from Friends?
>
> If we are going to do an ad, is it going to be in the form of an open
> letter
> to the city council? If so, who would like to work on writing it? We
> should
> have a few.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Krista May [mailto:kristamay at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:37 PM
>> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz; 'Larry Oliver';
>> csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
>> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu
>> Subject: RE: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>>
>>
>> Steering can act quickly...the wheels are already in motion!
>> I'm hoping to hear from everyone and have a decision by
>> Monday. If we don't commit any BP funds to this up front and
>> go with donations, it will be easier to act quickly because
>> everyone on Steering won't have to weigh in with a vote on
>> funds. So...helping to get the word out about contributions
>> and using our PO box for donations is actually less
>> complicated than an allocation of funds (and likely to happen
>> more quickly).
>>
>> Krista
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hugh <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
>> Sent: Oct 14, 2005 3:30 PM
>> To: 'Krista May' <kristamay at earthlink.net>, 'Larry Oliver'
>> <larryo49 at hotmail.com>, csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
>> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu
>> Subject: RE: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>>
>> The ad, at that time, was a little over $1,200.00. I think
>> that we should
>> be able to raise this money from contributions and not tap
>> into organization
>> money, though it is good to have backup if necessary. What
>> we would want
>> from BP would mainly be endorsement and the post office box to collect
>> contributions. Krista, is this something that the steering
>> committee can do
>> via email so that we can react quickly?
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Krista May [mailto:kristamay at earthlink.net]
>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:23 PM
>>> To: Larry Oliver; hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz;
>> csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
>>> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu; kristamay at earthlink.net
>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>>>
>>>
>>> This sounds like something the Brazos Progressives as an
>>> organization might (likely) be interested in supporting (as
>>> an individual, I am certainly supportive of this). I'd need
>>> to talk to the Steering Committee first, though, before we
>>> committ to adding our name to a petition or letter. I'd need
>>> to put it to Steering for a vote on how much money the
>>> organization might also be able to give to this effort if we
>>> go with an ad. We can, of course, also ask our membership to
>>> contribute money ear-marked for the ad...I feel like some
>>> members would also contribute.
>>>
>>> Hugh, do you know how much an ad would cost? Let me know the
>>> details. In the meantime, I will run this by the Steering
>>> Committee to see what they say.
>>>
>>> I'll be in touch...
>>>
>>> Krista
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Larry Oliver <larryo49 at hotmail.com>
>>> Sent: Oct 14, 2005 3:10 PM
>>> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz, csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
>>> Cc: william.wurtz at tamu.edu, kristamay at earthlink.net
>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>>>
>>> let's do it.
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Hugh" <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
>>>> Reply-To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz
>>>> To: <csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU>
>>>> CC: "Bud Wurtz (E-mail)" <william.wurtz at tamu.edu>,
>>> "Krista May
>>>> (E-mail)" <kristamay at earthlink.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>>>> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:06:23 -0500
>>>>
>>>> Before the war started, we were able to raise enough money
>>> for a full-page
>>>> ad in the Eagle with a letter to Bush and the signatures of
>>> many of us. We
>>>> have a much broader coalition at this time and I would guess
>>> that something
>>>> of this magnitude could easily be done. It would be nice if
>>> we could get
>>>> Brazos Progressives, CSPS, ACLU, UU and other progressive
>>> churches and any
>>>> other interested groups involved.
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
>>>>> [mailto:csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu]On Behalf Of Larry Oliver
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:33 PM
>>>>> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz; csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any sentiments for circulating a petition or protest letter
>>>>> among those of
>>>>> us who aren't aware that we have been citizens of a
>>>>> "Christian" city? Or
>>>>> turning out in force at the next CS Council meeting?
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Hugh" <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
>>>>>> Reply-To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz
>>>>>> To: <csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:36:27 -0500
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.theeagle.com/stories/100905/local_20051009003.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: feagin at tamu.edu [mailto:feagin at tamu.edu]
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:31 AM
>>>>>>> To: hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz; 'Mike Alvard';
>>> 'Larry Oliver';
>>>>>>> csps at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do we know for sure exactly what the mayor said? I hate to
>>>>>>> rely just on the
>>>>>>> Battalion:) JF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Hugh" <hugh at stearnsconstruction.biz>
>>>>>>> To: "'Mike Alvard'" <alvard at tamu.edu>; "'Larry Oliver'"
>>>>>>> <larryo49 at hotmail.com>; <csps at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:29 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The mayor was also quoted as saying something to
>> the effect
>>>>>>> that Wiccas
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> not a real religion. I have spoken to Bud Wurtz, the
>>>>>>> president of our
>>>>>>>> local
>>>>>>>> ACLU chapter, and they are looking into legal action.
>>>>>>> Though with our
>>>>>>>> courts the way they are, it seems unwise to challenge
>>>>>>> anything. The way
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> beat this is by playing their game. We need to make sure
>>>>>>> that we provide
>>>>>>>> diversity - Pagans, Buddhists, Animists,
>> Atheists. I would
>>>>>>> love to see
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> try to impose some sort of Christian affirmative
>>> action plan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The usually meek mayor is actually the one person
>> who stood
>>>>>>> up to this
>>>>>>>> effort when it was voted on. Sadly, Suzan Lancaster, who
>>>>>>> has been the
>>>>>>>> progressive hero of this depressing council, is the
>>>>>>> initiator of this
>>>>>>>> effort. I encourage everyone to write a letter to your
>>>>>>> council people
>>>>>>>> (even
>>>>>>>> if they are not your council people) who are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mayor Ron Silvia - rsilvia at cstx.gov
>>>>>>>> Place 1 Ben White - bwhite at cstx.gov
>>>>>>>> Place 2 - John Happ - jhapp at cstx.gov
>>>>>>>> Place 3 - Ron Gay - rgay at cstx.gov
>>>>>>>> Place 4 - Suzan Lancaster - slancaster at cstx.gov
>>>>>>>> Place 5 - Chris Scotti - cscotti at cstx.gov
>>>>>>>> Place 6 - Nancy Berry - nberry at cstx.gov
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Additionally, I would encourage you to copy Robert Borden
>>>>>>> of the Eagle -
>>>>>>>> rborden at theeagle.com.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As you write, keep in mind that the District Attorney is
>>>>>>> investigating
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> City Council for violations of open meetings regulations,
>>>>>>> so the prospect
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> legal action will resonate well with them. We don't have
>>>>>>> to tolerate
>>>>>>>> this. - Hugh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu]On Behalf
>>> Of Mike Alvard
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 9:20 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: 'Larry Oliver'; csps at PHILEBUS.TAMU.EDU
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This seems to be a move to demote non-Christians to
>>>>> second class
>>>>>>>>> citizenship. How can I feel I will be treated
>> fairly by a
>>>>>>>>> city government
>>>>>>>>> that believes, apparently, that I am hell-bound.
>>> I have come
>>>>>>>>> to terms with
>>>>>>>>> my neighbors' believing that I am to suffer eternal
>>>>>>>>> damnation, but my city
>>>>>>>>> council and mayor? How can I trust the courts
>> to treat me
>>>>>>>>> fairly? What do
>>>>>>>>> they expect me to tell my children when they ask
>>> about living
>>>>>>>>> in a Christian
>>>>>>>>> town...?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I called Silva, but had to rant into his answering
>>> machine...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Michael Alvard, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>> Associate Professor of Anthropology
>>>>>>>>> Department of Anthropology
>>>>>>>>> 4352 TAMU
>>>>>>>>> Texas A&M University
>>>>>>>>> College Station, Texas 77843-4352
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>> web:http://anthropology.tamu.edu/faculty/alvard/profile.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> e-mail: Alvard at tamu.edu
>>>>>>>>> Office: (979) 862-3492
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:csps-bounces at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu]
>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Larry Oliver
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 8:47 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: csps at PHILEBUS.tamu.edu
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [CSPS] Mayor Silva's comments
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CSPS,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Re our City Council's decision to open its meetings
>>>>> with a prayer
>>>>>>>>> (supposedly non-sectarian):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was astounded to read in today's Battalion
>> that our mayor
>>>>>>>>> has stated (if
>>>>>>>>> quoted accurately) that College Station is a "Christian
>>>>>>>>> community." and he
>>>>>>>>> is not backing away from that declaration. He has invited
>>>>>>>>> community members
>>>>>>>>> to contact him to voice their opinions. I think we all
>>>>>>>>> should do exactly
>>>>>>>>> that. His personal phone number is 690-6519.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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