[SCL] Re: Common Logic status with respect to standards

pat hayes phayes at ihmc.us
Mon Nov 3 21:08:01 CST 2003


>Pat,
>
>To me, it makes no difference whether we call it the CL group or
>the SCL group.  If it makes a difference to you, I will call it
>SCL.  I can't imagine why anyone else (ISO or not) would care.

I care, precisely because I do NOT want to get involved in 
interminable and endless ISO processes. Please, if you want to do 
that, find someone else to do it. You are welcome to use whatever we 
manage to produce, when we produce it, as a starting point, but don't 
expect me to carry this ISO can or to divert the effort of the group 
in order to satisfy any ISO craziness, such as this business about 
SCL not being Z. I simply do not care about Z.

>Re CG concrete syntax:  I promise to do that by Dec. 12th.

Ok, great, thanks.

>As I said in a previous note, I am planning to break the task
>into two parts:  define EGIF (Existential Graph Interchange
>Format) as the typeless version and CGIF as the typed version.
>
>Re Harry:  In January, we talked about making Chris the ISO
>editor, but it cost $800 plus expenses to participate, and
>Chris did not show any interest in participating, in finding
>the funding, or in asking Nancy to help.  At Dresden in July,
>we had Nancy, Harry, and me.  Nancy said that she could scare
>up some funding, and Harry said that he would be willing to
>do the work.  It was not possible to get a quick approval from
>the SCL group on the spot.

OK, but did you ever actually read the email I originally sent out? 
In which I said for example that the whole point of this effort was 
to NOT do it as part of an existing 'standard' process?

Sorry if Ive been crotchety about this, but I have to admit that 
being told that I have to hurry up because the CL effort is stuck 
rather annoyed me. I *know* the CL effort is stuck. Thats why I'm 
doing SCL.

>Re telecon:  I'm in California now, and I can call in at
>7 am on either Nov. 11 or 12.  I can call from New York
>on Nov. 14 at 10 am, but not on Nov 13th.

I'll try to schedule this in another thread. Agenda items??

>Meanwhile, I promise to drop all discussions of political
>issues or changes to the SCL semantics between now and
>Dec. 12th (unless other people make a fuss about such things).

OK, me too, though I felt I owed Harry (and Nancy) an explanation 
(which I just sent.)

Pat

>
>John


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